Oct 2, 2012 12:00pm EDT
compromise with the enemy. it is not going to happen. it is a terrible environment for the big deal that needs to get done. so acknowledge the reality. let's do the deal in 2013 but let's not cause a recession. basically just extend current policy to the extent policy and hope we get 2013 intact. that is my goal. >> doug, let me throw out a theory to get your reaction. the theory is this. that as long as the discussion about tax reform is an ongoing argument about the bush tax cuts -- >> i'm so tired of the bush tax cuts i can barely stand it. >> i think most people would agree. >> they have been talked about for 10 years? can we talk about something else? >> that is exactly the point. as long as you have extended the bush tax cuts, as donald said, only half of this is about the bush tax cuts. >> right. >> but in the public discussion it is the bush tax cuts. so as long as you extend them, can you get out of that debate? conversely if you let them all go. >>, does that change the framing of this we're no longer talking about the bush tax cuts, we're just talking about the tax code a
Oct 1, 2012 7:00pm PDT
to be in this high-risk, high-profile tense environment? nobody loves that. >> no but i think certain people rise to the level of the performance. bill clinton you always got the feeling that he was very happy to be there. >> jennifer: it makes me smile thinking about it. you also say that governor rom any has a few of these flaws as well. he could be overly cautious he lacks spontaneity. he appears awkward and whiny. and he might be boring. if you were comparing the flaws of either one of those, which would you rather be? >> i think i would rather be obama. however, i do think they are fairly evenly matched. and in some ways there are similarities. i see both men as being men more about the intellectual side of things and not the emotional side of things. nay are both a little bit aloof. but the clip we looked at where mitt romney loses it about the rules, that was the most impassioned we have seen that. but isn't it interesting he is not getting passionate out of issues, he is getting passionate because he feels like somebody is cheating him out of his time. >> jennifer: exa
Oct 2, 2012 4:00pm EDT
of the pool's environment. immediately prior to him sustaining the injury, he and two other whales were engaged in normal social behavior. the theme park's orca program has come under fire before. in 2010, a trainer was killed by nakai's father, tilikum after the orca dragged her into the water by her pony tail in front of an audience full of horrified spectators. federal regulators have since banned them from entering the water during a performance with orcas and seaworld says it has improved procedures. >> they swim in endless circles in chemically treated water for dead fish all for the amusement of tourists. it is cruelty from the day they are born until the day they die. >> reporter: seaworld says it treats its animals with the utmost care and in a statement adds, there is no organization in the world more committed to the physical, social and mental welfare of its animals than seaworld. >> we contacted the department of agriculture about peta's complaint. they say an inspector will be send to sea world to check the validity of the claim. >>> now at 5:00, breaking news at this hour
Oct 1, 2012 7:00pm PDT
, it's 9/11, it's americans in a hostile environment, and on our territory, a consulate in libya, yet they went out with the youtube and they stuck with it for so many days. you know, even without the ability of intelligence, i would have at least couched it differently. >> well, you're quite right. they made a terrible mistake. i think what they did was, you know, hope springs eternal. they wanted it to be the youtube and they -- it was much more convenient from the administration's standpoint to have it be the film that nobody's seen. and yet it demonstrated such serious misjudgments on their part to think that they could make it be the youtube, which it wasn't obviously, as time's gone by, and i quite agree with you, that anyone looking at it, knowing the history of september 11th, would at least have registered that that could very well have been part of an organized attack, which apparently now people in the administration have acknowledged, that it was a planned attack. >> greta: is 3is there a conseqe of a misjudgment, or is it something we all chatter about it among ourselves?